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Why Do I Have to Suffer? Part 3

Beloved, the word that God is starting to release in the hearts of his Apostles and Prophets in America has nothing to do with what we have (The Prosperity Message) and has nothing to do with what we do. For too long we have attached our identity with what we do. Our identity should only be found in who we are in Christ Jesus. It was important that I took the time to deal with these messages because the prosperity message refuses to deal with suffering; they almost mock the Christian that is facing affliction. On the other hand, the other message that attaches everything with the purpose of preparing us for the use of our gifts; even as they address the issue of suffering, they are falling short. This third part of this series will begin to directly address the reasons for suffering in ways that I have, personally, never seen before. Our basic Scriptures are found in Hebrews 12:5-15.

“5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: ‘My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;

6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives.’

7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.

9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?

10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness.

11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

12 Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees,

13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.

14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:

15 looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled…”

“Word of Exhortation”

This is a word of encouragement; it should not be taken as a negative word. When we get to fully understand the reasons why we suffer we will be able to stop feeling guilty about suffering, but rather feel convicted about our sins and therefore start our process of full restoration.

**“Do not Despise the Chastening of the Lord”**

The word “despise” means: “to disrespect; to ridicule.” The word “chastening” means: “reproof, warning or disciplinary correction.” There is a tendency, when we are going through “stuff,” to develop a disrespectful attitude towards the Lord and His ways. Many actually get angry with God. It is always hard for us to see our issues as we are so focused on the issues of our neighbor. God is reproofing, He is giving us warnings, letting us know that the path many of us are on is not Godly and will lead to devastating consequences. So God is correcting through his chastisement.

“Do not be Discouraged!”

Some others are not upset with God, but they are discouraged. They know they messed up; they know they sinned against God and other people; perhaps loved ones and they seem not to find a way to get back up again. Being discouraged is just as bad as despising the chastising of the Lord; both approaches will quickly take you away from the true purpose of God in the midst of this whole thing.

“God Loves You!”

You are not suffering because God does not love you; God loves you so much and it is my prayer that by the end of this series, the eyes of your understanding will be opened a little wider concerning the amazing love that God has for you.

“God Scourges Every Son (Daughter) Whom He Receives”

The word “scourging” means: “to goad (provoke) by flogging (beating).” This means to provoke you by beating you. Scourging is the greatest evidence of God receiving you as His child. No wonder we hear people these days, saying that every Christian they know is going through something…now you know why; God is receiving them as children. Glory!

“No One is Exempt from Chastisement”

“But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.” Hebrews 12:8

For a long time I was convinced that only hard headed people like me have to go through this chastisement process, until I read this verse. If you are a believer, you are not exempt; this chastisement is something we will all have to share sooner or later. That’s the reason why many, like Pastor Cruse, are always saying that if you are a believer, you are either coming out of a storm, in a storm or getting ready to go into a storm. Those storms are a part of the hardship, discipline and chastisement we will all have to go through as believers.

Up to this point, we were able to take a deeper look at Bible verses that are common for many of us. In this next part, we will begin to look directly at the reasons why we suffer as we close this series.

TO BE CONTINUED…

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An independent thinker with a profound call to see the orthodoxy of the church and passion for Christ manifesting together. Angel was born in Brooklyn, New York in April of 1968, he was raised on the beautiful island of Puerto Rico where he earned his B.S. degree in Sociology with a minor in Education from the Inter American University in San Germán in 1991. That same year he moved to Jacksonville, Florida. After working construction jobs for a year and learning the English language, his first job working with foster-care children in the capacity of youth care worker was with Jacksonville Youth Sanctuary in September of 1992. With JYS he was promoted several times as group home supervisor, legal caseworker, and program director. While in Jacksonville, Angel studied a couple of martial arts styles. After earning his black belt, he became the founder of Good Fight Ministries as he used martial arts as an instrument to preach the gospel. In 2004 Angel was selected Martial Arts Instructor of the Year for the State of Florida and in 2005 Angel was inducted in the USA Martial Arts Hall of Fame where he also received the Christian Spirit Award. In July of 2005 Angel accepted his call to pastor a bilingual church in Winton, NC where he served for a couple of years. Five months later he lost his first wife to cancer in December of that same year. This initiated a deep valley of suffering in his life, a mountain of costly mistakes and the embracing of lifestyles of sin that are well documented through this blog. In August of 2012 Angel moved to Fairbanks Alaska with his wife Rayette Casiano and six children who are now adults. In Alaska, Angel continued his social work-related career and his ministry of preaching, teaching and writing. Angel is the author of two books, Hope for the divorcee: Forgiving and Moving Forward and 7 Banderas de Esperanza: La Bendición de Yokdzonot. In January 8th of 2020 Angel and his wife moved to Arizona. On June 8th 2021 Angel started his home church, not as a starting point, but as a closer way to how the church is suppose to look like according to Scripture.

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Dennis Owen

01/24/2011

I realize that Christian living is more about “being” than “doing“, Angel. But I wouldn’t be a Christ follower if I didn’t feel like the gospel had some positive effect on people’s daily existence.

Over the past few days, I have been thinking about some aspects of what faith in Jesus Christ can do, not just suggestions of what we can do to be better Christians, or even better people. Too often we can find ourselves shaped more by the stories of the world than by the story of redemption as unfolded in the Scriptures. Our age is one of increasing ignorance of the biblical message. This means that followers of Jesus have to must move beyond simply a recitation of biblical facts as though knowledge of Scripture could be equated with preparation for Jeopardy or some other quiz show. Instead, we must be committed to helping women and men to understand and find their place in the grand story that God is writing from Creation to New Creation.

I hope your recent teachings on suffering will foster transformation in the lives of your readers as they follow Jesus faithfully on mission. The goal of such a life is to unleash transformed people not merely to make a difference in the world but to share in God’s work of crafting a different world.

God is looking for women and men who are willing to step into the role for which they were created. And in times of suffering, we need to go to Scripture to be encouraged. We need to understand that purpose brings promise. When you begin to walk in the purpose of God, God releases promises to you that are connected to that purpose. Then, the promise will bring provision. When God releases the promises, they release vision in you. When it’s His vision, then it’s His provision. I want to show you God has an inheritance for you, but it is tied to you walking in the purposes of God.

In Ephesians 1:7-11, we read, “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace that he lavished on us in all wisdom and insight.” I’m telling you. God is on your side. God is for you, He is not against you. God is lavishing towards you, not just in wisdom and insight, but God is lavishing towards you in forgiveness. God is lavishing towards you in riches. God is lavishing towards you in his grace, in his mercy. God is on your side.

The 9th verse says, “He did this when he revealed to us the secret of his will, according to his good pleasure that he set forth in Christ.” I want you to notice that there is a secret of his will. Remember, God doesn’t want to be a secret to us and he’s not hiding from us, but there are things God hides for us. It has been my experience that when God speaks destiny to us and speaks prophetically to us, often it warns the devil and alerts the devil to God’s plans for our lives. So there are secrets God hides for us until the appointed time, until we’re able to bear it, until we’re able to war a good warfare, until we’re able to stand in strength and character and integrity, until we’re ready to possess the land God has for us. So there are parts of his will that remain a secret to us until we start walking in his purposes. The more we walk in his purposes, the more he releases promises to us which are going to be in line with his will for us and to help us fulfill his purposes.

Notice it says, he reveals the secret of his will according to his good pleasure that he set forth in Christ There are things in Christ for us. These things God has set forth in Christ that he will release to us in the times that we’re walking in and fulfilling his purpose.

Verse 10 says toward the administration of the fullness of the times. Notice the term “fullness of time.” In other words, “the secret of his will, according to his good pleasure that he set forth in Christ” is waiting for the proper time. Never forget that knowing God’s timing is as important as knowing his will, that even obedience has to be in his timing. God keeps some things a secret for us until the fullness of time. Notice it says, “to head up all things in Christ– the things in heaven and the things on earth.”

So our purposes, our dreams, our visions are all in God. As a matter of fact, there is only one real dream, and it’s God’s dream. Our dreams are part of God’s dream he releases to us that we are to fulfill. We are, in obedience, to walk it out to bring together all things in Christ — you doing what God has called you out to do, me doing what God has called me out to do, God working in us and through us and with us to cause our dreams to come true. Our dreams are part of his dream. Understand God wants our dreams to come true because he released the dream to us, and our dreams are part of his dream. So, as our dreams come true, then the dream God has and the desires and purposes that God has, will be fulfilled.

It’s all in him. We dream in him. Our purposes are in him. Our destiny is wrapped up in him. Our fullness of times are in him. “The things in heaven and the things on earth,” are in him. The things he set forth in Christ for us are in him. The secret of his will is in him. Why we are here, our purposes, our desires, our dreams, our destinies are in him.

Notice the 11th verse says, “In Christ we too have been appointed a portion of the inheritance.” There is an inheritance God has for each of us, but I want you to understand your inheritance is tied to your purpose. In other words, there are things God has for you in him that he will release to you so you can be successful. There are anointing, there is money, there are people God has stored away in him that will release you to accomplish his will, to fulfill his purpose in him. So when you begin to walk in God’s purpose for your life, God will release everything you need to fulfill it.

Look at John 15 and center in on the last part of verse 16. It says, “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you to go and bear fruit, fruit that remains, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you.” Read the last part again, “that whatever you ask the Father in my name he will give you.” Do you get it? That scripture does not stand alone, it is part of the entire sentence. What he’s saying is this: I have chosen you and appointed you to bear fruit , fruit that remains. Now what ever you need to do that, whatever you need to fulfill that, just ask the Father in my name he will give you. Why will he give you whatever you ask? Not to consume it of your own lust, but because God wants you to bear fruit that will remain. He has promised to give you what you need to do it.

Look at Romans 8:28. We quote it in part most of the time, but the part we often leave out says, “who are called according to his purpose,” All things work together for good for those who love God, and to those who are called according to his purpose, In other words, for those who are called to purpose and walking in purpose, God will cause all things to work together for your good, for the good of his purpose. God’s going to release to you all you need to fulfill it.

There is an inheritance God has for you that will be released to you. That’s why I say, purpose brings promise, promise brings provision, provision brings power. God will empower you to do what he’s called you out to do, so when you walk in his will, God will release power in you to accomplish his will. The Prosperity Message says “name it and possess it,” but I say purpose brings promise, promise beings provision, provision brings power to live as a missional community that serves by reflecting and embodying the holiness of God to/for/in the world. How well are we playing our part?

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1. angelcasiano
  
  01/24/2011
  
  Amen Dennis!
  
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angelcasiano

01/24/2011

As Christians we will have; we can’t ever out-give God. Also, as Christians we must do, for faith without works is dead. This series is addressing the message of suffering specifically and the fact that what we have and what we do ought to flow out of who we are. The emphasis is then on who we are in Christ; suffering is that spiritual Gym that will get us there. The message of suffering can’t be ignored and must be Biblically explained. I already ended the series, so hopefully we will get a better understanding of what the main point is. God bless you Dennis!

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Joel

01/25/2011

Great post and scriptural references! I’d definitely recommend Andy Stanley’s new book, “The Grace of God” on this topic http://bit.ly/97gsL6

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  01/25/2011
  
  Thank you Joel!
  
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Why Do I Have to Suffer? Part 3

“5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: ‘My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;

6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives.’

7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.

9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?

10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness.

11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

12 Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees,

13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.

14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:

15 looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled…”

“Word of Exhortation”

This is a word of encouragement; it should not be taken as a negative word. When we get to fully understand the reasons why we suffer we will be able to stop feeling guilty about suffering, but rather feel convicted about our sins and therefore start our process of full restoration.

**“Do not Despise the Chastening of the Lord”**

“Do not be Discouraged!”

“God Loves You!”

You are not suffering because God does not love you; God loves you so much and it is my prayer that by the end of this series, the eyes of your understanding will be opened a little wider concerning the amazing love that God has for you.

“God Scourges Every Son (Daughter) Whom He Receives”

“No One is Exempt from Chastisement”

“But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.” Hebrews 12:8

Up to this point, we were able to take a deeper look at Bible verses that are common for many of us. In this next part, we will begin to look directly at the reasons why we suffer as we close this series.

TO BE CONTINUED…

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“5 And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: ‘My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord, Nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him;

6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens, And scourges every son whom He receives.’

7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten?

8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.

9 Furthermore, we have had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?

10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness.

11 Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful; nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

12 Therefore strengthen the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees,

13 and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be dislocated, but rather be healed.

14 Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord:

15 looking carefully lest anyone fall short of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up cause trouble, and by this many become defiled…”

“Word of Exhortation”

This is a word of encouragement; it should not be taken as a negative word. When we get to fully understand the reasons why we suffer we will be able to stop feeling guilty about suffering, but rather feel convicted about our sins and therefore start our process of full restoration.

“Do not Despise the Chastening of the Lord”

“Do not be Discouraged!”

“God Loves You!”

You are not suffering because God does not love you; God loves you so much and it is my prayer that by the end of this series, the eyes of your understanding will be opened a little wider concerning the amazing love that God has for you.

“God Scourges Every Son (Daughter) Whom He Receives”

“No One is Exempt from Chastisement”

“But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.” Hebrews 12:8

Up to this point, we were able to take a deeper look at Bible verses that are common for many of us. In this next part, we will begin to look directly at the reasons why we suffer as we close this series.

TO BE CONTINUED…

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